Sarah Palin is toast

I’ve really dropped my practice of weighing in on politics on this blog, but since I was an ardent Sarah Palin supporter, I thought I’d weigh in on this.
I was excited last year when I heard rumors of a possible Sarah Palin VP nomination, and was even more excited when she actually got it. I said in several places that a Palin pick was the only way I would ever vote for McCain long before she was ever on the media’s radar as a serious contender for the job. When the McCain-Palin ticket failed, I said I was hopeful to see Palin run again in 2012.
And now I’m here to say, I was wrong.
There is simply no positive way to take this. No, she isn’t pulling out early so that she can prepare for a 2012 presidential bid. No, she isn’t going to run for a Senate seat. Why would people trust her with either of those offices when she didn’t finish the job that the people of Alaska elected her to finish?
I only see three possibilities here:
(1) There is a serious illness in her immediate family. No shame in quitting if this is the case, and she might even have a career as an elected official again someday, but I suspect that if this were the case, she would have said so in her press release today.
(2) There is a scandal about to break, she knows her career is over anyway, and she’s bowing out in a last-ditch effort to save face. Hopefully we aren’t about to find out that she has a boyfriend in Argentina.
(3) She really is buckling under the pressure of nasty personal attacks and frivolous ethics complaints. I agree that she and her family have been the targets of some really ugly smears, moreso than most politicians, but that’s politics. If she can’t handle what she’s had to put up with as Governor, she certainly never would have been able to take it as Vice-President or President.
And honestly, her press release today was pretty crappy. The “lame duck” excuse was just that: lame. Even if she isn’t planning on running again, that’s no excuse to quit now. If I were still an Alaskan, I’d be pissed.
Unless she makes an announcement later today of serious illness in the family—and I would rather have her leaving politics for frivolous or scandalous reasons than see someone in her family become ill—this can be nothing but a sign that her career is over.
So long, Sarah Palin, and I hope you enjoy your life as a not-elected-official.

Comments

Sarah Palin is toast — 56 Comments

  1. The fourth possibility is that she enjoys being on the national stage more than she does getting involved in the nitty-gritty of small-state politics. And by getting rid of her Alaska job, she can make a lot more money on the speaking tour in the Lower 48 plus be more visible for her 2012 run at the presidency.
    (FWIW, I’m no fan of Sarah Palin and never have been.)
  2. I hold no real animosity for Gov. Palin, but couldn’t and didn’t vote the Republican ticket for a few good reasons. The main reason had to do with her apparent ignorance of national political issues, and her apparent over-idealism, which I think don’t operate well in a venue of compromise, which is what the Vice Presidency is in the roles of Senate President and President-in-waiting.
    I say “apparent” ignorance, because I’m sure that the monsters at NBC overdid her caricature. Tina Fey’s treatment was too cruel.
    But still, I didn’t think she had the right stuff for national contention.
    Ancillary to this was my inability to tell if she was on the countercult short bus or not. My suspicions were in the affirmative. I had no suspicions about Governor Huckabee; he used countercult falsehoods to foment suspicion and prejudice, and is one of the reasons the Evangelical political factions don’t actually deserve power at the national level.
  3. How can she now go to the general public and ask them to consider her for a four year term as president of the entire country if she cannot even handle a four year term of a small state like Alaska?
  4. Uh oh, if she has sights on 2012, I think she pulled out too early. It’s not like she couldn’t continue on as Governor while working on a political future. There’s still a lot of time to go, and whoever runs against Obama in 2012 may wind up like Mondale did against Reagan in 1984. A popular incumbent is hard to beat.
    Yes, I think some of the comments about her (& her family) were over the top, but some of her claims were also a real stretch, like being next to Russia made her an International Relations expert. I did get a laugh from Tina Fey’s “Run for your life! The real Sarah Palin is here!” type of reaction on that SNL skit.
    Eric’s idea is possible, but how many President have been elected that were not in another office just before running? Nixon & Reagan are the only 2 recent ones I can think of.
  7. If I was a staunch Democrat, I would be crossing my fingers, hoping for a Palin run in 2012.
    As it is, I’d actually like to see a decent conservative candidate. Even though I know it’s not going to happen. Politics is poison. Nothing good is going to grow in that soil for a long time.
  8. Yeah, crazy! I kind of liked her, even though I thought she was sort of silly sometimes. Maybe it was her glasses, I don’t know.
    I hope for her family’s sake all is well. It will be interesting to see what unfolds.
  9. I like Sarah Palin. John McCain did not do it for me until she came along. I like her values and she energized millions in the U.S. I think she is the only reason John McCain wasn’t skunked in the election. I’m taking her at her word and the reasons that she is giving for quitting. I totally disagree with Rob Perkins on her grasp of National Issues and Idealism. She blew Joe Biden away in the intelligence and grasping of issues area. She is a truth teller and has integrity, and that is why she is leaving I believe.
    Come on those of you who are conservative. Give her some room. Why do we “eat our young”? so quickly.
    Kullervo: Have you not noticed the fear and trembling within the democrat party concerning Sarah? How many Vice Presidential candidates EVER been the focus before an election? The fact that they continue their virulent attacks after the election shows how afraid they are. Sarah Palin is a true blue American Woman and “unashamed of her country”.
  10. Jack: Toast is good. With butter it is better. With butter, milk and jam, it is hard to beat. I think Sarah Palin will do all right. If she never wins another election we have been lifted by her fine example.
  11. The fact that they continue their virulent attacks after the election shows how afraid they are.
    I couldn’t agree with you more, Glen. I don’t remember anywhere near this level of a media frenzy being directed at John Kerry and John Edwards after the 2004 election, and they both stated their intention to run in 2008. I don’t believe Palin herself ever said anything about seeking the nomination in 2012, yet she’s had a gaggle of reporters camped around her since the election and I’ve had to hear about every retarded little detail of her life involving stupid crap like pardoned turkeys and how dumb her grandson’s name is. This is not natural and it is not because she’s so stupid they just can’t stop being amused by her. They hung out up there trying to piece together “dirt” on her because they wanted to make certain she never came back.
    So I really can’t take seriously the talk of “Sarah Palin sucks so bad we wish the Repubs would run her again in 2012.” No Republican who inspires the levels of leftist hate that Sarah Palin does is truly impotent. Her immense popularity within the party and her ability to raise funds and draw crowds shouldn’t be counted for nothing, either. She could have had a future in national politics if she’d wanted it.
    Still, I definitely see resigning as governor as a short-term mistake. There’s not a chance she’s running in 2012, and she’s likely out for 2016 as well. However, other people have pointed out that she’s young yet. She could hit the lecture circuit for a few years, brush up her foreign policy chops, fund-raise, and be ready to take another shot at a national office again in 6-10 years.
  12. Keep telling yourself that, guys. Democrats frothed at the mouth when Bush nominated Harriet Miers for the supreme court, but it’s not because they were scared of her. It’s because she was laughably incompetent, and it looked for a few minutes like we were going to be stupid enough to let her into the court.
    And for the record, it really is kind of because she’s so stupid people can’t stop being amused by her. Sorry.
    NOw, to back-paddle a bit, I actually am afraid of Sarah Palin in national politics, but the reason I am afraid is because she is a populist. In the right set of circumstances, I could see her getting elected, especially if the economy stays bad or gets worse. And that terrifies me because populists are the worst people to put into power, period. But I don’t speak for anyone but me.
    Talk about being afraid of her because she has “values” is just self-congratulatory Republican rhetoric.
  14. I can also see the Democratic party raising a furor over apparently incompetent candidates for the simple fact that keeping the spotlight on the doof continues to make the Republicans look bad.
    That alone is worth a bit of screaming.
  16. Yeah, the Harriet Myers thing was equal opportunity mouth frothing. The fact that Myers was not qualified was easy for laypersons to see, and they didn’t want her on the court.
    But honestly, Jack, Palin was a lightweight politician, too easily drawn into media entrapment, too proud to admit ignorance, too focused on local angles to see the national ones.
    But, honestly, the “palling around with terrorists” line, being as it is a screaming fallacy, cancelled any support I might have had for her. True followers of Jesus do not vilify.
    I’m in the camp that supposes that Palin has resigned because the press won’t leave her family alone, including the teenage turncoat who fathered that baby.
  17. Here’s the thing about Harriet Miers though: after she withdrew her nomination, the media was done with her. No one followed her around trying to grab more doofishness from her just to make Republicans look stupid. Once she was no longer a threat to power, people left her alone.
    I’m not going to argue the points on whether Palin was a good or a bad candidate—with Obama in the White House it’s really hard for me to take those complaints seriously—and I stopped listening to “the Republican candidate is stupid” arguments when I was 6. What I am disagreeing with are the Democrats who say “Ha, please run her again, she doesn’t have a chance.” Kullervo’s the only one who has said that here, but I’ve been seeing it all over the Internet this weekend, and it’s bullcrap. If she weren’t a threat to power, people would have left her in peace.
    Rob ~ I’m in the camp that supposes that Palin has resigned because the press won’t leave her family alone, including the teenage turncoat who fathered that baby.
    After seeing stuff like this, I’m inclined to agree:
    In Sarah Palin’s resignation announcement she complained about the treatment of her son Trig who always teaches her life lessons. She said that “the world needs more Trigs, not fewer.” That’s a presidential campaign promise we can all get behind. She will be the first politician to actually try to increase the population of retarded people. To me, it’s kind of like saying the world needs more cancer patients because they teach us such personal lessons.
    I’m really glad I never tried to run for vice-president. I’d hate for my “retarded” daughter to have her disorder compared to cancer because in politics children are apparently “fair game.”
  18. Kullervo’s the only one who has said that here, but I’ve been seeing it all over the Internet this weekend, and it’s bullcrap. If she weren’t a threat to power, people would have left her in peace.
    It’s completely disingenous to claim that that’s the reason she gets negative attention. It’s exactly the same as Mormons claiming that the church gets so much opposition because it is really truly true.
    Kullervo: Do you think Obama isn’t a populist?
    He is a bit of a populist, yeah. Not as egregious about it as Sarah Palin though.
    Why do you automatically assume I am a fan of Obama?
  20. Kullervo ~ It’s exactly the same as Mormons claiming that the church gets so much opposition because it is really truly true.
    Not even. Claiming Sarah Palin gets so much negative attention because she has a legitimate shot at winning an election and is therefore a threat to power is the equivalent of claiming the LDS church gets so much negative attention because they are very successful at making converts from other Christian backgrounds and are therefore a threat to evangelical power—which is exactly why I think the LDS church gets so much negative attention from evangelicals, btw.
    If I were claiming Sarah Palin gets so much negative attention because deep down inside, Democrats know she would run the country better than they would and they’re terrified of letting the public realize that, that would be the equivalent of claiming the LDS church gets negative attention because it’s true.
    You can tell me my thinking is wishful if you want, but I feel the same way about the notion that she’s completely unelectable. Last election, 46% of the country voted for her, she drew more crowds and ratings to her speeches and debate than any other VP candidate in the history of America, and she inspired a greater surge in fund-raising than any other VP candidate. That doesn’t spell “unelectable” to me. Jesse Jackson is unelectable. Sarah Palin would have been a long shot, but four years ago so was Obama, and look how that turned out.
  21. What’s wrong with Mitt Romney? He’s got the same family values and same economic stances as Palin, but has a much larger resume. Oh, right, he’s too smart and polished. He’s not down-to-earth and folksy like Palin, so he’s disqualified.
  22. Don’t look at me, I wanted Romney for the nomination over McCain, and I never advocated for Sarah Palin as a Presidential candidate in 2008. I only said she would be great for the VP slot, for which there is plenty of historical precedent to put an on-the-rise, less-experienced politician. And with her resignation as governor I’m definitely against seeing her run for the top spot in 2012.
    Romney in 2012? Don’t know. We’ll see. If Obama doesn’t make some serious and obvious screw-ups to the extent that the media can’t bury them, it isn’t really going to matter who we run in 2012.
  23. What’s wrong with Mitt Romney? He’s got the same family values and same economic stances as Palin, but has a much larger resume. Oh, right, he’s too smart and polished. He’s not down-to-earth and folksy like Palin, so he’s disqualified.
    This is one of the things that is terminally wrong with the Republican Party.
  24. Kullervo:
    Well I can see the exact same problem with the Democrat party as well. They voted for a pop-star, they have a guy they adore for his looks and speaking ability.
    Jack:
    As long as a major scandal doesn’t come out of the Romney woodwork, I see him easily beating Obama in 2012.
    Even if the economy starts getting better by the end of 2010, January 2011 is when campaigning begins, and the Republicans are going to hammer Obama on it.
    Add to that, the fact that all polls show that people are overwhelmingly against Obama’s policies, foreign and domestic. His approval stays high because of his image and personality.
    I’m telling you that the excitement of voting for an African American and the “newness” of a rock-star is going to be old hat, come 2012. People are going to vote on principles next time, and Romney has that going for him.
    Romney’s out there every couple weeks with a new blog or a new speech to counter the major policies that Obama is pushing (Palin hasn’t been seen that way, she has looked combative and defensive in recent months). Romney’s looking more and more like the adult in the room and that’s what people are warming up to, and not seeing from Obama.
  27. Jack,
    Here’s the thing about Harriet Miers though: after she withdrew her nomination, the media was done with her. No one followed her around trying to grab more doofishness from her just to make Republicans look stupid. Once she was no longer a threat to power, people left her alone.
    But she’s not done. She’s doing a book, she’s going on a lecture circuit. She can star her own TV show if she wants. She is a hot item, a hot commodity. Harriet Miers was just simply not a hot commodity. Big difference in terms of how the media flock differently between the two women.
  29. “No Republican who inspires the levels of leftist hate that Sarah Palin does is truly impotent. Her immense popularity within the party and her ability to raise funds and draw crowds shouldn’t be counted for nothing, either.”
    Palin scares me because I cannot see any good reason for her popularity. I thought she was a reasonably good governor, but totally unsuited to national—let alone international—politics. The reasons I thought she was popular: pretty, folksy, claims to be a soccer mom, properly religious. Those are fine reasons to have someone as a friend, but horrible reasons to pick someone as a national leader. Thus, Palin scares me because she represents voters basing votes on really, really bad criteria—and that’s scary because:
    a) it makes me fear that voters will select others for similarly superficial/irrelevant reasons
    b) it’s a totally irrational position, and there’s no way to reason with someone who is irrational (i.e., now way to get them to change their mind)
    (I realize that all of this is based on accusations about Palin’s qualifications and her supporters’ criteria, so please don’t respond attacking that part of my comment because that debate is not why I’m commenting. Rather, I just wanted to illustrate why many people might be convinced that Palin is incompetent yet still scared by her popularity.)
  30. Mitt would be a great president, and we could really use someone who has the experience in economics that he has. However, I’m afraid that until and unless the Evangelicals can be political friends with the Mormons, that he wouldn’t be able to get elected.
  31. BrianJ: I don’t understand. Does she (Sarah) scare you becauseshe represents voters based on really, really bad criteria? What is the bad criteria? Or is that why some other people are afraid of her? Either way, what is the bad criteria?
    As far as voters selecting candidates for “superficial/irrelevant reasons” that horse is out of the barn. This past election was totally an example of that.
  33. Palin never had a shot at the presidency.
    The only purpose she ever had for the GOP after McCain was to serve as a throwaway candidate if Obama looked too strong in 2012.
  34. Jack – you’re going to have lots of fun discussing politics when you move to Chicago!
    On another note I discovered today that TEDS is quite close to the Chicago Temple. But maybe you and Paul already knew that. We get up to the Chicago Temple about once ever 3 months (2.5 hour drive). Maybe we can meet you guys for dinner sometime.
  35. Glen:
    “I don’t understand. Does she (Sarah) scare you becauseshe represents voters based on really, really bad criteria? What is the bad criteria?”
    What I listed: “The reasons I thought she was popular: pretty, folksy, claims to be a soccer mom, properly religious.”
  36. I find it a continuing source of puzzlement as to why so many people opposed Palin as a VP because she wasn’t “qualified” to be the President. What does that have to do with it, really? She wasn’t running for President. Oh, wait, that’s right: McCain is old and would therefore inevitably die in office. (I’m pretty certain that that qualifies as the single stupidest assumption about a politician I have ever heard.)
    Anyway, I was one of those who, like Jack, supported Palin as a VP before she was really well-known. (Apparently, most of the MSM missed her name on the first list of potential VPs.) I spoke with my best friend who lives in Alaska and found out exactly what made Palin such a great governor, and why she had an 80% approval rating. Alaskans had the perception that Sarah Palin put Alaska first, and in politics, as in just about everything else, perception is everything. But then the media storm came.
    Recent news articles seem to indicate she left because she was sick of her administration being unable to get to work because of all the nonsense that has continued to get in the way. Unfortunately, all of this has brought me to agree with Jack’s assessment: Palin is out when it comes to serious national contenders. She was great in Alaska, but she and her family just did not fare well in the firestorm of a MSM in love with the Democratic Party and it’s glam child.
  37. Alex: Either the office of VP means something, in which case there are real qualifications for it, or it is meaningless, in which case it makes no sense to support anyone for it. Fwiw, I don’t think Palin was qualified for either VP or president, but I only opposed her based on grounds that she was unqualified for the VP.
    “Recent news articles seem to indicate she left because she was sick of her administration being unable to get to work because of all the nonsense…”
    Then why not say so? Why not tell the people of Alaska that that’s why she’s leaving them? Even if the nonsense is coming from MSM, wouldn’t they be more likely to leave her alone if she announced she wasn’t pursuing politics after her term ends? But that’s not what she announced: she announced she won’t be pursuing the governorship, meaning she may still be looking at politics and still wants all that media attention. Rather than a cry of “I’m leaving so the MSM will stop hindering Alaska,” this is a cry of “Hey MSM, look at me!”
    In sum, if she doesn’t run for any office, then this was just a bad calculation on her part. If she does run for another office, then this was just a media ploy (at Alaska’s expense).
  39. Brian ~ The biggest problem I see with your list of objections is that many Republicans feel exactly the same way about Barack Obama; that he didn’t have the qualifications for the #2 spot, let along the #1 spot, and yet there he is now, the leader of the free world. That people voted for him in spite of his staggering lack of qualifications because he was young, handsome, cool, charismatic, and they were really down with wanting a black dude for President.
    If you’re not a Barack Obama fan and you think he’s all wrong as President, then your position is probably consistent enough. But I feel like political discourse between parties lately has looked a lot like this:
    “Sarah Palin?! You gotta be kidding me.”
    “Barack Obama?! You gotta be kidding me.”
    And so we go on and on convinced that the other side is crazy for supporting who they support.
    Tom ~ Actually, I really loathe discussing politics. I get into it a bit around election time, but generally, I find discussion between people of differing political positions is usually full of each side talking past each other and rehashing their own side’s talking points while completely ignoring the other side’s view, and I’m really no exception.
    The other day I got into a chat on GMail with my ex-roommate Laura who sometimes comments here; she’s a Democrat and pretty far left, and thus pro-choice. I’m pro-life in that I’d like to see abortion made illegal eventually, but I don’t think it’d be practical to ban abortion right now and I would rather we focus on treating the reasons women get abortions instead of just banning it. I am pretty much in favor of restrictions on it.
    I live extremely close to a Planned Parenthood clinic, so I get to see abortion protesters almost every day. I began mentioning to Laura that I think these people are kind of jerks because Planned Parenthood doesn’t just do abortions; they offer birth control, prenatal care, and annual exams to women in low-income families. I think it’s kind of sucky that women who are seeking those services and just trying to keep themselves healthy have to walk by these people on the way to their check-ups.
    Then Laura started talking about how often babies are born alive during botched abortions and how much it pisses her off. I expressed shock that she was concerned about this, and I’d heard it argued by other pro-choice people that such things hardly ever happen. She snorted that people think it “hardly ever happens” because the abortion clinics don’t report it; the clinic has to pay if the baby is taken to neonatal care, and neonatal care is a hell of a lot more expensive than putting the live baby in a dumpster, so…
    And suddenly I thought, holy crap. Is this conversation actually happening? Are we really seeing where the other side is coming from on divisive political issues? This never happens when discussing politics.
    I’m still not completely sure that conversation happened. I’m going to have to get Laura to confirm that I wasn’t dreaming or something. :P
  40. The VP is a heartbeat away from the presidency. The VP absolutely has to be qualified to be President.
    Nancy Pelosi is a plane crash away from the presidency. Is she qualified to be President?
  41. I agree that the VP should be ready to take over the Presidency, but I do not agree that the VP should be qualified for the position. If that is the case, then why the heck did Obama ask one of his major rivals to be the VP? Throughout a primary campaign, the candidates are doing their damnedest to make everyone believe that all the others guys (and gals) are not qualified for the position. So if the logic holds that the VP must be qualified to be the President, then there is absolutely no reason why Biden is the Vice President! (And speaking of him, where is the guy these days, anyway? All I hear and see is Obama Obama Obama.)
    But the whole point of this post (if I am reading Jack correctly) is that Sarah Palin has just demonstrated that she should not be serving in national office. I thought she’d be great. Lots of people agreed. But her resignation from the governorship, with 18 months of the term remaining, has shown that when things get too hot, she gets out. That is a great move for her family, but bad move for her political career.
  42. Jack – I hate discussing politics because liberals always gang up to try to make conservatives feel stupid. Probably 75% of the people I interact with on a daily basis are more liberal than I. Often over lunch, I’ll assert a conservative viewpoint, and the liberals at the table laugh me off like I just wandered out of the psych ward. It’s somewhat tempered when another conservative is at the table, but for some reason I don’t often eat lunch at the same time as the other conservatives.
    Not to say that conservatives don’t do the same to liberals when the tables are turned. I’m just saying I don’t tend to do that to people – I’d rather hear what they actually have to say.
  43. Jack: You see my point perfectly!
    “…many Republicans feel exactly the same way about Barack Obama; that he didn’t have the qualifications…”
    Yep. I know. And that’s why I understand their opposition to him: they think he lacks necessary experience, he’s all show, etc. And while I disagree with those accusations, I still see them as good reasons to oppose a candidate…
    “If you’re not a Barack Obama fan and you think he’s all wrong as President, then your position is probably consistent enough.”
    …and so the consistency of my position has nothing to do with whether I support Obama or not.
  44. I would just point out that Pelosi is the fault of a Californian district and the bizarre world of House politicking. I would like to imagine that she doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of ever having the electoral support to actually be elected directly to the presidency.
  45. Tom, the conservatives DID do the same thing to liberals when “the tables were turned.”
    Try the last eight years.
  46. Throughout a primary campaign, the candidates are doing their damnedest to make everyone believe that all the others guys (and gals) are not qualified for the position. So if the logic holds that the VP must be qualified to be the President, then there is absolutely no reason why Biden is the Vice President!
    You answered your own question. Electoral politics is vile.
  47. Seth, I saw that more as bullying. “We outnumber you so there’s nothing you can do to stop us from doing whatever we want.” Although the Congress was only Republican from 2002 to 2006.
  48. Having worked in Congress for 4+ years, I can assure everyone here that both parties just switch playbooks depending on who’s in power. Show me a tape of Bill Frist from 4 years ago, and I’ll show you Harry Reid repeating the same whiny BS.
    That goes for Congress, the administration, and the talking heads on cable news that do a huge disservice to our national discourse every day.
    The rhetoric is just on a loop, and it’s all just BS.
  49. Yeah Tom, but the stuff you were complaining of is really just as much a right-wing problem as a left-wing problem.
    Ever listen to Sean Hannity or Laura Ingram?
    They act like anyone who isn’t GOP core is a freaking retard.
    Polarization is general societal problem. And it’s debateably worse now than it has been in a long time.
  50. Having worked in Congress for 4+ years, I can assure everyone here that both parties just switch playbooks depending on who’s in power. Show me a tape of Bill Frist from 4 years ago, and I’ll show you Harry Reid repeating the same whiny BS.
    That goes for Congress, the administration, and the talking heads on cable news that do a huge disservice to our national discourse every day.
    The rhetoric is just on a loop, and it’s all just BS.
    Amen. Politics are poison.
  52. Politics are poison?
    As a point of order, I remind the Meeting that “politics” is the thing humans invented which was an alternative to “shooting the other guy to get your way.”
    Which is the more poisonous?
  53. As Winston Churchill once observed:
    “Democracy is the worst system of human government ever created – except for all the others.”
  54. Which is the more poisonous?
    Politics.
    And anyway, that’s a seriously false dichotomy there. In any case, when I refer to “politics” I mean a two-party system of elected representative government. Electoral politics. Culture war. Crap like that. I think it’s inherently poisonous, but I think more specifically that our system has become too toxic to yield any good fruits.
  55. “In any case, when I refer to ‘politics’ I mean a two-party system of elected representative government. Electoral politics. Culture war. Crap like that.”
    I think that that there may be the single worst definition of politics I have ever heard of in my life. I mean, I know that there isn’t a real “standard” definition (just about the only thing I learned from taking a PoliSci class), but really… limiting the definition of politics to the system as it is currently being implemented in the United States government is pretty awful.
    Seems to me that a much better definition of politics would be “a systematic method of governing” – which includes not just civil government, but the governing of all social groups, such as schools, work-groups, churches, etc.
    So, yeah, I totally disagree with the idea that politics is poison. The individuals who corrupt the system are the poison, not the system itself.
  56. I wasn’t claiming that is the definition of politics, just that that’s the specific kind of politics I was referring to.
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